tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3444895069543408811.post3849333111437452893..comments2023-10-06T18:55:46.317+08:00Comments on That's Impossible! Politics from Taiwan: ECFA referendum request rejected阿牛http://www.blogger.com/profile/08403972286057197709noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3444895069543408811.post-30587560299962570192009-09-09T23:52:48.297+08:002009-09-09T23:52:48.297+08:00Somehow I think the DPP is not so sincere about st...Somehow I think the DPP is not so sincere about stopping the ECFA with the referendum, because the question is ambiguous to me. Another professor (can't think of his name at the moment) had launched another ECFA referendum campaign which asks the question "do you agree that the government signs the ECFA with China?" The question was much more clear, and if not enough people voted on it--like what happened to all referenda in the past--it would be a de facto rejection of the ECFA. I've asked a DPP official--who is also a personal friend--why the DPP decided to have its own version instead of using the professor's referendum proposal, well, he never answered the question. One answer that would only make sense--as far as I can think of--is that the DPP isn't sincere about it, they knew their own proposal would be rejected, and they knew that even if their referendum makes it to poll station it would not pass and the ECFA would be signed anyways, and all these events could build up momentum for the DPP to launch a political warfare against the KMT. I hope I was wrong though.Loa Iok-sinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3444895069543408811.post-37246614154364366332009-08-31T14:33:04.413+08:002009-08-31T14:33:04.413+08:00While I can't say I am opposed to everything y...While I can't say I am opposed to everything you say, Stop Ma, I think the real point of this post is the way in which this referendum proposal was rejected and not the question of whether or not the referendum is a waste of time. <br /><br />I find it particularly odd that the committee objected to the idea of holding a referendum on a "something that has not yet happened".<br /><br />Rejecting a referendum on these grounds indicates that referendums can only be reactive in nature. The electorate can never propose a course of action, and it cannot head off any government action that has not been formally written down. So, hypothetically, the government could forumulate and enact any unpopular action in secret, such as an act of unification with China. Any reaction by referendum would take months to organize, by which time any ruling by referendum would be meaningless.<br /><br />I also disagree with the claim that the ECFA is not a policy issue. It may not be set in stone yet, but it is enough of a policy issue already for the government to publish cute, stereotype-laden cartoons to promote it. I would argue that if the ECFA is not worth formulating a referendum over, then the ECFA is not worth promoting either.Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552370490869601403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3444895069543408811.post-37634882638426506422009-08-30T03:47:45.724+08:002009-08-30T03:47:45.724+08:00.
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Again, this referendum on a referendum idea ....<br />.<br />.<br />Again, this referendum on a referendum idea was a complete waste of effort and a ridiculous conception -- making the DPP look bad, politically.<br /><br />Instead, put together a REAL referendum (when the time is right) on the ECFA agreement itself. If the referendum passes the criteria, then it is the KMT that will look bad rejecting it.<br /><br />Pulling political stunts like this is an approach to continued failure (unless you have the media behind you -- which the DPP does not).<br /><br />Get it together, guys! Sheesh.<br />.<br />.<br />.skiingkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381159852660053893noreply@blogger.com